Looking forward to the GTX 1070 / 1080

Discussion in 'X51 R1/R2/R3' started by mf9, May 1, 2016.

  1. Rousigue

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    Thanks to you two MURRARI and SquireSCA, I'll stay focused on the 1070, she is good enough at the moment, maybe the next gpu generation Will be even more efficient :)

    For the water cool, that x51 is a used one, so no choise for me and I didn't plan to change for air cooling
     
  2. SquireSCA

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    I have found that unless you are doing extreme overclocking(which in today's world isn't really needed), you don't need water...

    Today's chips run cooler and stock and aftermarket heatsinks work very well. You can overclock the crap out of the CPU, and your games are still video card limited anyway, so it doesn't really give you a benefit and all you do is spend more money on cooling...
     
  3. MURRARI

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    That might be true for a full size case where there is ideal airflow. In the X51 (and other compact builds) the internals reach high temperatures and in certain situations can cause thermal throttling, fire hazards (depending on the environment,) and unnecessary wear on the components.

    It doesn't hurt to liquid cool the machine and with AIO liquid systems coming down in the price range of air coolers it is advantageous to liquid cool IMHO.

    Members (including myself) on the forums have done other simple mods such as additional exhaust ports/fans on the case and replacing HDDs with SSDs to cut down on the heat if you decide to keep the CPU air cooled.

    Hope that helps.
     
  4. SquireSCA

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    I haven't seen any heat or throttling issues on mine so far...
     
  5. MURRARI

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    With a GTX1080 installed mine gets extremely hot to the touch, and I've done modding to help that. I haven't noticed any thermal throttling, but given the right circumstances I'm sure it could happen.
     
  6. SquireSCA

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    I just have the GTX970 it came with, and even when I overclock that, the temps stayed fine. I am always in an air conditioned room though...
     
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    Pick up the graphics amplifier with GTX 1080ti and call it a day. Once you are ready to build your rig move the 1080 ti in to the rig and sell the Graphics Amplifier for $100. Don't hack into your system. It will be worth more in OEM/Stock format when you go to sell it with GTX 970 and an empty Graphics Amplifier.
     
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  8. SquireSCA

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    Any lag in those things? I mean, does the PC communicate to the external box as well as a car plugged directly into the PCIx slot?

    Which graphics amplifier works with this PC? Is there only one, or do that have different models?
     
  9. bombsquad

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    Your only option is Alienware Graphics Amplifier and you can expect a 5% hit in FPS due to the external connection. Thunderbolt is like 10% hit so the Alienware is actually the best option. Amp should run you like $100 used $135 open box and $159 brand new.

    You can see my benchmarks below to get an idea of performance increase.

    Here is stock Titan in Amplifier
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13331051

    Here is Overclock Titan in Amplifier
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13354463

    Stock Internal GTX 970
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13351437

    Internal Overclock GTX 970
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13351525

    https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-9R7XN-Graphics-Amplifier/dp/B00PCJXN0I

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/alienware-graphics-amplifier-black/4330739.p?skuId=4330739

    https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-9R...77EE7U53NWQ&s=merchant&ie=UTF8&qid=1502744006

    http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-graphics-amplifier/apd/452-bcfe/gaming